""The Privilege and Luxury of Worshipping God"
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Hi, welcome to Bit101, Vocalizing Every Noted Topic with a Christian twist. I'm June Bryant, your host, and we welcome you to our podcast. Our vision is to win souls to Christ and to help those who know him by giving them a fresh new perspective on Christian living and reading God's Word. Our mission is to biblically educate people while growing in their Christian walk by answering questions that they are uncomfortable to ask in a church-like setting. You can find us wherever you get your podcast. Please like and subscribe. You can also visit us on YouTube, Instagram, or on our website vent-101.com, where you can leave any questions or comments that you may have. Thank you. It's June back in the room. How's everybody doing this evening? Or this afternoon or this morning? Whatever time you listen to us on YouTube. I'm June, and I'm gonna go around the room and let everybody introduce themselves, and we have our special guest here again.
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SPEAKER_00Good morning and good day, everybody. This is Antoine. Hopefully, everybody's having a good day and good week so far, and have a blessed rest of your day, too.
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SPEAKER_08And this is Beatrice Covington, and I am happy to be back joining you guys today.
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SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But today's topic is called the privilege and luxury of worshiping God in spirit and in truth. The privilege of worshiping God in spirit and in truth. Now, new believers often feel that worship matters, but don't always realize how much of a privilege it truly is. Now, here's a clear grounded way to understand it. It's not a duty you have to perform, but it's a gift you get to experience. The purpose of our worshiping is to glorify, honor, praise, and please God. Our worship must show our respect and loyalty to God, excuse me, for the grace he gives by providing us with the way to break free from those sins that we're in, that keep us caught up or bound. He wants our worship to come from a deep, humbled place and surrendered heart. James 4, 6 says that God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. And verse 10 says, humble yourselves before the Lord and he will lift you up. Thank you, Jesus. Uh Jesus also says in John 4, 23, 24, John 4, 23, 24, but the time is coming indeed. It's here now, when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way, for God is spirit. So those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth. Hear this, family. That scripture doesn't say that we can worship God any way we want, but we must worship him in truth. The word must makes it absolute. No ifs, ands, or buts about it, family. There is no way we can worship God and be acceptable to him. The word must, according to the Webster's Dictionary, I had to go into detail for y'all, expresses that must is an obligation, a requirement, a necessity, a certainty, and something that must be done. When must is used, it means that there are no options. Worshiping God in spirit and in truth is a serious matter which can't be taken lightly. Now, me and the panel are uh uh for the teachers that are listening, the panel and I are gonna touch base on this. Yeah, I have to say it because I'm kind of ghetto. And I was raised by a teacher, so I heard my mama say, Joseph, still don't say me and the panel. Say the panel and I. Y'all know I ain't got the good sense. Because our souls are eternal, we have to strive to worship God with a pure, intentional heart and with honest obedience. Now I'm gonna give you, before I open it up to the panel, I'm gonna give you during my research, two people that really jumped out to me who worshiped Jesus were. The first one was Elizabeth, that she was Mary's cousin. And she was the first person to actually worship Jesus, uh, found in Luke 1, 39 through 45. Luke 1, 39 through 45. But the rest of the story you can read verses 26 through 56, uh, where you can read Mary's song also. It was beautiful. It says that when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. Verse 42, and she says, exclaimed with a loud cry, Blessed are she said to Mary, Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. You see, Elizabeth was pregnant with John the Baptist, and she was old, too old to have a child, so she thought. But that's another story we'll tackle another time. But she was the first person to actually worship Jesus in the womb. So she was the first person to say, hey, hallelujah. Yeah. And the second one I found was the man born blind in John chapter 9. That really uh read the whole chapter in your spare time, family. Uh John chapter 9, the man who was born blind. Now, this man's condition was seen by many as punishment, but Jesus meant it for good. It was an opportunity for the power of God to be shown instead of punishment. John 9 3 said that it was uh so the works of God might be displayed in him. Jesus made mud with his saliva, placed it on the man's eyes, and told him to wash in the pool of siloem. Siloem. The man obeyed and he could see for the first time in his life. Now, when his neighbors and those who had been seeing him around, sitting around begging, uh, saw that his sight was restored, they asked him, How you he get healed? And he testified boldly, which is found in John 9:25. John 9 25. He said, One thing I do know. I was blind, but now I see. Thank you, Jesus. Now, proof of his faith and worship came after the man was put out of the synagogue. It was then uh that Jesus revealed himself as the Son of Man. And the man responded, Lord, I believed and worshiped him right there. Yeah, that was John 9:38. So those two jumped out at me, especially with Mary. Elizabeth saw Mary and Jesus jumped in her womb. Boy, that was that was off the chain. She knew right then that he was, she started worshiping Jesus in the womb. Father God, thank you, Lord. So I'm gonna open it up to you all uh on the panel, and those of you that are listening can join in with us. What y'all got?
SPEAKER_01Well, that's awesome. That's awesome. You said a whole whole bunch on that one. Amen. But thinking about uh the privilege of it, um it it uh it brought me to the point where you have to be transformed.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_01Not you know, uh, you know, because we're born in the natural and whatever, and Jesus said, you know, we must be born again. Uh in order to have that privilege, you have to be transformed to become believers, that experience that that the Holy Spirit empowers us.
SPEAKER_04Amen.
SPEAKER_01And because the Holy Spirit, once we're transformed and giving our lives totally to God, I think you said something about that that surrendering to Him, then uh we we open up to the Holy Spirit that fills us, and that's our connection uh with worship to God. Uh and so we have to be transformed uh, first of all, that's that's what I want to say because you you read my my scripture. I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no. I love that. I love that. Yeah, in John uh 4, 23 and 24, you read that. Yes. And you know, uh in the Old Testament, they would worship, you know, God uh, you know, on the mountains and different things like that. Um the story was about the woman at the well. And um she was like, Well, our forefathers, you know, did this. Y'all Jews, you know, this and that and other. And Jesus said, Uh you you don't even know who you're really talking to right now. You know what I'm saying? But wherever you are, it's not a it's not a location. That's why I want to get to. It's not in the mountains, in down the street, in the it's not even in the church. That's right. Worship is where your heart is in God. It's a place where you know, where we worship. It's a place because our heart's been transformed. Yes. We've been renewed, and now we have that privilege. You know, we have that right to worship God. And a lot of times people think you go to church on Sunday, and I don't have nothing against it, you know, because um that's what we do. You know, we gather together in corporate worship. And everybody's not on the same accord either when it comes to that. But um it's not it's not coming to the church on Sundays and raising your hand up and hooking them a shine. That's not the worship he's talking about. That's right. Worship has a lot to do with your servanthood. Who you who you have alliance with? Is this the holy God, the almighty, the only wise God, our savior, like Jude talked about, you know? And so, because you can, it's many gods. I read about it when Satan was telling Jesus, bow yourself down to me. This is mine. Yeah. And Jesus said, Wait, hold on, hold on. Hold on, no. No. I'm worship God and Him only. Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, but uh it it's uh it's it's ooh, this is broad, yeah, yeah, about what worship is. But just know that you have the privilege when you have surrendered all your whole life to God. Amen.
SPEAKER_00Yep, um, I just want to start with the definition of the word privilege and the word privilege uh biblically because it's a little bit different than just looking up the general words.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Um biblically, privilege is understood as a special blessing, favor, or stewardship granted by God rather than merely an earned advantage. That's it. So, and the thing about um from the a lot of I got a lot of notes from this one. The the key focus is on the heart and the true knowledge of God. Yes it. Um, the meaning of worship and the the key part is worshiping in truth and in spirit. And because that's the only way to do it, you can't just have part of it or a piece of it. You got it, it has to be done that way, because why he says that and what my mom is founded on in John 4 23 and 24. Now, I have some meanings of down here the uh worship in spirit. Worship originates from within, from the heart rather than outward, guided by the Holy Spirit, and it's not limited to locations. Amen. The key thing, you can worship everywhere. That's what it's saying. You don't have to be in church or a temple or a certain building. You can worship anywhere. Now, worship and truth, meaning it's worshiping God-based truth of his word, the Bible. And in accordance with who he with who he revealed in Jesus. It is authentic, genuine, and not based on human logic or lies. Now, when you combine them, it's focused on a relationship based on reality, love, and depending, not obligation.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00The key thing that I got from, well, again, I got a lot of notes on this one. But just to have the privilege to worship is a blessing in itself. That's the key. I know a lot of times, like this the song uh my boy did Lord of mercy just slip my worship. My worship is for real. Yeah, I was singing that on the way. Yeah, something that hit me when I was uh I was talking to somebody one of my friends about we was talking about the Lord, that's all we do talk about for the most part now. And they was talking about how like people were, I guess, shunning them or talking about them because they don't scream and shout in church. And they was like, why don't you do it? That means you don't really love the Lord or something like that. But I told them, I said, um, just because they're doing that, that's just an act and a show. This is when it comes to true worship, it's something that within it's not something to brag or boast on. It's not a certain way that you do um worship. Just like what he says in uh why the man's name can slip my name. Bless him. Well, anyway, what he says, my worship is for real. And then the song he said too much.
SPEAKER_05We hear much worship.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And and on top of that, my worship is my way of worshiping. Everybody don't worship the same way. And that's what I told him. And it and at first, because they kind of when people was telling them that, it kind of discouraged them. They was like, Well, how do I not know if I'm worshiping right? And all these different things. And I told her, like, it's not a certain God made you your way. Your relationship with him is your relationship with him. How you worship him is your way. And it's like you said in the song, you may not know my worship. Yeah, it's my worship.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Your worship is your worship. Yeah. Don't try to figure it out. Because my worship is for real. Just right as long as it's for real. That's it. Because that song there is deep and it's more part of my rotation. I do not know why I can't think of the man's name right now. I'm looking right at him. It's in my daily rotation. That's my song too.
SPEAKER_01I want to uh state something that uh evangelist Billy Graham uh said too uh about worship. He said that worship is an occupation of the soul, of the soul with God Himself. And he said it does not necessarily include praying for your needs or giving thanksgiving for your blessings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just bowing yourself before him. That's right. And and it's not like a you know, physically like bowing down, but we find ourselves doing that in worship sometimes. But bowing means surrendering. We can be standing straight up and bowing. Yep. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08Because it's a heart posture. Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01And so that's I I just look, June went there with that worship, I'm telling you, because I did not know that that's what I was doing. Yeah. When I didn't even say a word, I can just stand there and think about it. You know, the awesomeness of God is on the heart. You can't worship something that you don't awe. You know what I'm saying? Because he's the create creator of the universe. And I'm like, God, you know, you turn night today. I'm 12 years old on the rooftop, not knowing that I was worshiping the Almighty, like wow, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was that I was here. I just saw the sun. Now the moon is out, and I can see a little star, so y'all know the city, everybody always. And I was like, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01But that was worshiping. That's a form of worship. Because yeah, I'm expressing to him who he is.
SPEAKER_08It's about being in his presence. That's it. And it's funny that we're talking about this because last night, as I was reading, I was thinking about, like you said, it's not about the blessings, it's not about all the things that people want and what they think, you know what I'm saying? It's about being in his presence. You could be driving down a car and in his, you know, driving down the street in your car and in his presence. You're in the shower and you're in his presence. Yes, you know, I remember when I was a kid and my grandma was standing at that stove stirring a pot of oatmeal, and out of nowhere she said, Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We thought she was crazy. Like, what is wrong? But she remembered a time when she used that same little pot of oatmeal to feed five kids and she only got one spoon. That's right. That's worship. That's right. You know what I'm saying? It's all about service and stewardship, all of those things are worship. People think it's just about the music that we listen to. No, it's about how do we get into his presence. You might be a skater and you like to skate, but you with God while you're doing this thing, that can be a form of worship. Like this is me and God. Anything you do with me and God, that is your worship. And like you said, my worship is for real, whatever that is, right? But I want to piggyback on something because it's funny that everybody hit um when you was talking about John, right? Yeah, and I'm thinking, like, why have I the one thing about the gospels when you're thinking about Matthew, Mark, and Luke, Luke, John, right? You like these stories always appear in other places. Yes. And one of my favorite stories about this was in Mark 8:22, uh 22 through 6. And I really dug deep into this because this man got healed. He was blind. Yeah, yeah. And this was in Beth Sedia, and the Lord took him outside of Beth Sedia to heal him. But what you didn't, I don't think you read it, it didn't show it in John, but it's in Mark, he spits. He spits you spit. Yeah, the saliva. Well, first of all, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to really trust you to put on my eyes.
SPEAKER_04This is worship. I don't think Billy knew. I don't think he knew because he was blind. He said, What if he went up?
SPEAKER_08I could see him going far to God. Come on, but here's the thing. But here's my thing. Because he knew who God was. He knew who Jesus was, right? And it had been said that this man can heal me, right? Right. There are people in our own lives. I know in mine, I tell me and Sarah crack jokes at work all the time, and I say, if Pastor Bear had to heal me and she had to spit, I'm gonna accept that spit. I know that's it. But she is downloading from the Lord. But that story is so deep because what it didn't say in in um John that it says in Mark is that when he healed him the first time, this is the only time in the Bible that there was a two-part healing. Okay? The first time when the when Jesus healed him, he said, What do you see? He said, I see men walk in his tree. That's right. That's right. And that didn't mean he wasn't healed, but sometimes God has to heal our perception. What do we see? Yes, thank you. When he stayed and got that second touch, that was worship. Because he could have walked on and continued to see me and walk in his trees because he had some sight, right? But he stayed in God's presence to get the second touch. It was the only time in the Bible where there was a second touch, a two-part healing. That's a good thing. He still was healed, but he has to fix sometimes. God has to fix our. We talked about this in the first part in the first podcast. He's got to fix what we see.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Yes, Lord. That's it. That's what he gotta do. That's a good one. But that's worship. That's worship.
SPEAKER_08When you say, Lord, I know it's gotta be more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. That's good. Yeah, yeah. That's the knowledge of who he is. He was knowledgeable of that healer.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That I couldn't see.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So that's what we gotta do.
SPEAKER_04It comes from the inner person of our spirits, right? Not just outward actions, family. Jesus touches this with worship. There is only lips and no heart. He touched base on it in Matthew 15, 8 through 9. Says, these people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. They worship me in vain. Their teachings are merely human rules. Jesus intended for us to worship through the Holy Spirit who gives us inspiration and thankfulness that also gives us a deeper sense of who God is. There's so many people that are in these churches that are Hashimakai, what you call it? I don't know how to say stuff. And it ain't no went no farther than the ceiling. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01She said Hashimakai.
SPEAKER_04But we when you make worship personal, come on. That's what it is. Then you get to really understand the goodness of God. I know my granddaughter, when she at my place, I know she used to me. I just howl off and say, Thank you, Lord. Because like what you said, your grandmother. I just get to thinking how I couldn't say thank you, Lord, at one time. It was just in my mind. I couldn't say people who can't say it. It's just in your heart.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's such a blessing to be able to know better and to know what worship truly is. That's why this podcast, this particular topic, came to me, and I hadn't even talked to you. And I'm like, Lord, because that's when I'm going through a reset, and the Lord, you gotta rely on me. Because normally I talk to the people, talk to whoever I interview or whoever's coming in the studio for the first time just to get a gist of how they are, you know, uh, because I know you from church, but I don't know you, but now I can say we got so much in common. But I had to rely on Jesus, on the Holy Spirit to give me this topic. That's when I said, Lord, he said, just worship me. Yeah, BB worships me do her book, it's all worship in there. The healing and the worship. So that's boy, when you connect, have a true connection with the Holy Spirit inside, because I feel bad for people that really haven't learned to worship him in spirit and in truth. Yes. You gotta be true to yourself, family. If you don't know Jesus in the pardon of your sins for real, stop playing games. Don't get played by the enemy. We have to continue to worship God.
SPEAKER_01And be real about that. Yeah, go ahead. Can I say something? Um on our last podcast, you know, uh, BB, you were talking, um, and I was just listening to you. You was actually almost everything you were saying, it was about worship. Yeah. Because you talked about, you know, your uh real estate company, ministry, you're worshiping God. Yes. You talked about how you sit down with the people in honesty and truth. That's worship because you honor who he is. When you talked about, you know, just different, you know, different things, like you talked about Shadrach, Meshach, and Billigal. It's knowing that God can do it. It's knowing, and and that's what makes you worship him more because even though they headed to the fire, they said, if he don't deliver me, you said that in the last part. Didn't you say it? Absolutely. If they don't, if he don't deliver, I will steal. I you said I know he's able. That's the word of the Lord. Knowing this is what I'm what I keep saying, this is how we know within us that this is God. You talked about his presence too. And that's what worship is, knowing that his presence is there. Sharach, Meshach, and Billy Got knew that God's presence was going to be with them. Even after, even after if they died in the fire. Eternal. God is who he is. And so that's, you know, I I want to bring that up too. Because I thought it was a a real good uh statement that you made on the last podcast.
SPEAKER_08Um and one of the things I often say to God before I talk with people, uh, whether I say it to myself or say it out loud, is Lord, you know, let the words of my mouth and the meditations of my heart be acceptable in thy sight. You know why? Because too often we can show up as us. Show up. You know what I'm saying? And and so, you know, God has had to tell me many a times, you know, it's a difference between having permission and participation. You see what I'm saying? We some people just want you to be present to hear what they have to say, and we be thinking that they're giving us permission to just open our mouths. Yes, you know what I'm saying? But sometimes that worship is just being present. That's right. You know, God's presence in you, your light, it's not underneath that ball to be shining, right? Yeah, yeah. The presence of God being there so that these people can find healing, and they're not gonna always be a safe person that we're dealing with. They have to be able to see our light in order to understand what worship is. Yes, yes, and that we're not perfect, even in our worship. That's right. We're not perfect, never will be, yeah. Until we close our eyes. We draw more people to God in worship when they see that you know, June ain't perfect, you know, B ain't perfect, you know, but she's still trying. And I always say, when you say I'm making Jesus my choice, you keep trying to make Jesus your choice. And then one day you don't have to keep, you don't have to say it. Jesus will be your choice. Yeah, you won't have to say it. But if you keep reminding yourself trying to make Jesus my choice, that means I'm gonna mess up because the Bible said that we're gonna we're gonna fall. Yeah, but we get back up and get back in line. We say a righteous man fall what seven times, but you get back up and get back in line.
SPEAKER_04That's that's the gift. We have to uh let especially the new believers and non-believers that to know that you're going to fall. You're never gonna know everything. You're not. But I, you know, sometimes I'm like, boy, I admire people that can uh remember scriptures, you know. But my brain ain't equipped for all that. I pray, you know, that I am able to, I know more than I thought I know. Thought I knew. Uh my son says that all the time. I didn't know I knew that until he came out of my mind. But the Holy Spirit chooses it too. He shows up. That's what I'm getting. Because we know don't let it be gotta be a scholar. Yes, you do. Yeah, don't let it uh make you uncomfortable or think you don't know enough. Uh, I'm talking to new believers because you can look at somebody else and say, boy, they got all that knowledge. Yeah, but how long have they been walking in Christ? You know, and there are certain people that have have been walking in Christ for 40 years and can't don't know nothing.
SPEAKER_08But what's the point of having all the knowledge if your life don't have the fruit?
SPEAKER_03Bingo.
SPEAKER_08That's what I'm saying. Yes, man. So Pastor Bell said, just grab one scripture. You can hold on to the fruit. She said that Jesus was the one scripture. You know, a lot of us learned the 23rd of Psalms growing up. That was the thing that we knew. We can read it back and forth. Just grab one piece out of it if you need to and just hold you through. I always say one thing about uh that I've desired of the Lord, and that will I seek after. If I gotta say that every day. Because I'm trying, Lord, I'm trying, but that is our worship.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I want to say something on that truth part too. I really love that. God is spirit, and they that worship him must, you she kept reiterating that, right? Must worship him in spirit and in truth. And when I thought about the truth part, I thought about how tradition of men keep us uh not worshiping God in a true sense. Because uh the truth of the matter is you don't have to go through these rituals. You don't have to, you know, do this is June. And you said it. No, I'm serious. We don't have to do that. The truth is that you worship God because it's there in your heart to do. Yes. Not going through all this, I don't know what I don't know. But you know how they do. I think it's you know, rituals and and then these falsehoods about things because I'm still thinking about John, you know, uh in the fourth chapter where all these rituals, you know, y'all worship God, you went in there and got sticks or whatever, y'all did the candles or whatever you did, kill the calves and the lambs or whatever. Okay, rituals. You you're worshiping God, you know, in that sense. And then Jesus said, Here, you don't have to do that stuff.
SPEAKER_05You don't have to do that anymore.
SPEAKER_01When I when I gave my life and I said it is finished, the what the tent the thing was rent into. So you gave He gave us access to go to the Father and worship, praise Him, prayer, everything else. That's so blessing of it. So traditions get in the way of our true worship to God. Even though we love him, but you know, we just you you said it. We can be in church or around the church for so long and don't have true worship. That's right. It's sad. Be fake in the font. Be f Tradition.
SPEAKER_00Just like with so people that I've been uh that I've been doing Bible studies with, and that's where it did come to me. I didn't for one even be having Bible study, never thought or saw that much mom was too. I didn't realize I had as much wisdom of the word as I did. And it started coming out naturally. And it was throwing me up because I was kind of discouraged, like, man, am I soaking all this in? Like truthfully. And and through that, God revealed that, like, yeah, you stand on the right path.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And the key thing is just giving him the glory and the humility that comes along with it, by um giving him the glory and having a true understanding that it's it's never about us, it's all about him.
SPEAKER_05Yes, that's right.
SPEAKER_00That's that's you gotta worship him all when you want to. When you truly know that, how could you think otherwise?
SPEAKER_05That's right.
SPEAKER_00And the main thing with me is that I that I've learned through just through that and and all, is the fact that, because at first, well, like this, when you grow up and you're Baptists or Catholic and stuff like that, that's where a lot of the man-made traditionalism came in. And that's why I tell them, if it's not in the Bible, that's up to you if you believe it or not.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because I'm not going by nothing if it ain't in my word.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So, like growing up, they say, don't touch the table in the front of the church and these different things that the table and remembrance of.
SPEAKER_05I couldn't make me say that maybe.
SPEAKER_04And Kenny was like, whoa!
SPEAKER_01No, he didn't ever say no, nothing. I promise you. I'm not a joke. You didn't know that.
SPEAKER_00What the fuck is it? You can't walk down the middle, a couple of numbers, you can't walk across the pulpit.
SPEAKER_04You did not touch that table.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, a lot of stuff in the Baptist churches churches have that in the very front of the church. If you ever know what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01I see the little table thing, but I never didn't see that you're right, that you couldn't touch it.
SPEAKER_00They said you can't lean. I got popping up. You can't even lean though. Yeah, I was in chip, I was in chip quiet. You better but again, that's what we refer to, like the traditionalist man-made thing. Because man takes a lot of different things and add into it. Yeah. Just like I was talking about my friend, she was, she's Southern Baptist, grew up Southern Baptist, and that was her comfort zone. And she started going, continuously going to these churches. But I'm telling like, and I told her, are you are they staying strictly through the Bible? Are they throwing in ad-libs? Are they throwing extra seasoning on it? See. And the thing is, that's what happens. Like referring to what Ms. Pap was talking about, the traditionalism and how that can dampen your worship. You may not know how to do it right. So that's why it's best, and what we always say here, getting your word. Yeah, learn it for yourself. So you don't get detoured or sent in the wrong direction. That's the only way to stay aligned and know that whatever church that you're worshiping at is staying aligned with God.
SPEAKER_01My God.
SPEAKER_08People need to open a word for themselves, like you said. Because you take our word for it. Yeah, you'll believe anything if you, you know, and you see this all the time with these pastors. You see a lot of stuff, and people will believe it because that's what's being spoken. Right. You know, whether it's through somebody you trust who who walk with God or a church, but you have to open it up yourself. And I always, if somebody says something, I'm a reason, I'm a fact check. Go ahead. Uh let me see. Where does he say this in the Bible? And if I can't find it, then it's not true. Just like in the Bible, well, not in the Bible, you hear a lot of people say, Oh, God never put on you no more than you can bear. But nowhere in the cleanliness, but no, but nowhere in the Bible does it really say that. What he said that he won't tempt you.
SPEAKER_04That's right.
SPEAKER_08So people are twisting the word. Don't twist the word. Yeah, don't make it confirm.
SPEAKER_04It sounds good, BB.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, it may sound good, but but we can't lie because if that's the case, he wouldn't have been on the cross. That's the truth. Amen.
SPEAKER_04Okay, they fall into that trap because of this, it sounds good. And they, if it if they hollering and turning flips in the pulpit, and it sounds kept us bound. It ain't all good if it sounds good.
SPEAKER_08Amen. That's right. We don't get free if it just sounds good. Amen.
SPEAKER_00That's what we tell people. Like you said, fact check. Yeah, always they give a scripture. Make sure the scripture aligned with the sermon and all the above. Make sure the Holy Spirit is truly involved in that. It has to be.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. My God. This is a tidbit of information for new believers to hold on to, as well as season. Um worship in spirit equals from your heart. Worship in truth equals based on God's word. Real worship needs both, family. If you have truth without spirit, worship becomes dry, cold, and intellectual. If you have spirit without truth, worship becomes emotional but misguided. When you have both, worship becomes powerful, thank you, Lord, joyful and life-changing.
SPEAKER_00We read the same thing.
SPEAKER_04You did?
SPEAKER_00I read the same thing.
SPEAKER_04Uh I wanted to uh this is through research. How new believers can start practicing this. Uh, talk to God honestly. Tell him what you feel, even if it's messy. Read scripture daily. You have to stay in the word. We've been talking about that. Invite the Holy Spirit in. Ask him to help you worship with sincerity. That's one thing. If the Holy Spirit wasn't inside of us, dwelling, yes, we wouldn't be able to have knowledge or grow. Correct me if I'm wrong. And being uh with the Holy Spirit dwelling in us, the worship becomes more real. Um the Holy Spirit is what we have to have to be able to praise God. Am I right? You have to be able to have the Holy Spirit. So uh in order to have true worship, you have to take it seriously. You have to take it seriously. Uh read your scriptures daily. Uh worship beyond Sunday. We talked about that. Worship through obedience. Yeah. And stay teachable. I saw that. I'm like, man, stay teachable.
SPEAKER_08I want to tap in on something you said here when you said to talk when how you can talk with them, tell them how you feel, right? But to piggyback on what you say, you know, it's it's it's not a certain formality that has to have the truth. People think that we have to go, oh, our father, father God, in the name of Jesus. No, I used to wear a t-shirt that says Jesus is my homeboy. Yeah. Because you know what? When I can talk to him like a friend, that's what he said he is to me, right? When I can have a conversation with him like I'm talking to you, sometimes I tell, I mean, I talk to God like, listen, dude, I do listen, you told me this, and that didn't happen. God told, I'm I'm I'm coming to you because this is what I believe you said you would do. Where are you? Like, seriously, be be honest. That's spirit and truth. Yeah, to be truthful before the Lord, because he already know how you feel. That's right. And then as you begin to talk to God and get in the word and have those relationships, your conversation will change too with God. But right now, just start where you are. Just be like, look, God, I don't even know what to do, man. Like, if that's the way you talk, then talk to him. Because that's what he's looking for, your presence. Yes, he's not looking for no performance. That's right. When you pray, it's like, God, look, God, I need you, God. You listen, you know we got these bills. God, if that's you, be you. That's right. Until he changes your language. Because he will change your language. He sure will.
SPEAKER_00I'm just telling somebody the same thing. Yeah. I'm like, my father knows his son half a daughter.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You like, boy, what's wrong with you? That's it. I'm about to thump inside your way one more time. That's it. And it's the thing, the key thing is the personal relationship. He's gonna talk to you and come to you how you are, no matter where you are, and he's gonna come to you in your way.
SPEAKER_08In your way.
SPEAKER_00It's not gonna be with somebody else's perspective, or none of that is irrelevant. Why? Because when you go before him, you're gonna be alone.
SPEAKER_08That's it.
SPEAKER_00So you have to make sure that you are grown in that relationship. He wants to be a part of everything, not just the parts you want him to, everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly, too.
SPEAKER_08And as you begin to really worship God, you'll find other things that you'll you'll find his still small voice. And don't turn that down thinking that, oh, it's just me talking to myself when you're driving down the street and you know that God said go left, but you continue to go right. You see what I'm saying? He's telling you that if you go left, you're not gonna uh come up on this accident. That's your right. Understand that. So as you begin to communicate with him, he's gonna talk with you too. Yes, he will. He's gonna talk with you. Yeah, he's waiting for us. He's waiting. He's like he ain't never left us nor forsaked us. The only thing is that we turn, we walk in another direction. So all we gotta do is just make an about face because he's right there. He said, now look at God like this. To me, I tell my kids, he like a lawnmower. I don't care how high these weeds get in life, but when you turn back to him or turn to him, guess what he's gonna do? Like a John Deere baby. He's gonna cut that high weed and he's gonna get you back on the path that you originally called for your life. Because there is a calling on everyone's life, but you don't know until you start talking to him, so he can give you the guidance to get to where he wants you to be. Amen. That's the truth.
SPEAKER_04That's worship. And please, family, don't think that worship is just when God answers your prayer. Please worship him through the good and the bad. Let him know how how good he is at all times. That's right. No matter what you're going through, and you'll find that if you worship God through the rough parts of your life or the rough seasons, he'll make it lighter for you. Because you have to always remember uh that your worship is for real.
SPEAKER_08But he also said that your, he said your ladder will be greater. So you have to understand that right now what you're going through is temporary inconvenience for permanent.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_00Tanya says what sounds and appears to look good and be good doesn't always mean it's for the good. God will remove what is not of his will.
SPEAKER_08Amen. That's right. That's right. And people always looking for the good, right? Him not responding is good. And a lot of times, he says responds sometime and no responds. That's right. Listen, when I was going through some things in my life and I was talking to the Lord about it, I'd never forget when he said to me because I was looking at being rejected. He said it's not rejection, it's protection for redirection. So even his no is a blessing.
SPEAKER_04Amen. Yes, it is. That's right. Yeah. I wanted to go into a couple of reasons that it's a privilege. Uh, I'm going to post this on Facebook, uh, and I'll I'll post it on YouTube as well. There are so many countries that you can't, they can't even praise God or worship God in public. And we're here in the United States or uh uh who wherever you are worshiping or listening to Vent 101 because uh Yemen they're one of our dutiful listeners. They listen to us all the time, and it's an extreme risk level is extreme. Christians are convert, convert, converts are executed. And there is a list of uh I printed it out for the panel. There's a list of uh countries why it's deadly because North Korea is extreme, the risk level. Uh Bible possession equals execution, entire families will be punished. Yes, father. In Afghanistan, it's extreme. The converts are executed under the Taliban. Somalia, Libya, uh, Sudan. I have never heard of this place.
SPEAKER_00Eritrea. Eritrea. My boy from the high school boy from Eritrea.
SPEAKER_04My God. They get tortured. Indefinite detention. There are certain places. Iran is very high. They get imprisoned. Pakistan is very high. Blasphemy, death sentence. Death sentence.
SPEAKER_00That's all.
SPEAKER_04And why won't we worship God the way we should? It's a privilege. It's a privilege. It's a privilege. It's access to God. That's the first thing is access. This is through my research. The idea that God of the the God of the universe invites us into his presence. It's extraordinary. Worship isn't just singing or praying. We just said that. It's being welcomed into a relationship with God Himself. Yeah. Knowing that you're loved. Worship reminds people that they are fully seen. I know I'm fully seen. Thank you, Jesus. Fully known and still fully loved. That's that kind of unconditional acceptance is rare with people.
SPEAKER_08Yes, it is. But people are so entitled. You think about them. You're talking about all of us in the U.S. who can just worship freely. Yes. We have an entitlement. We've got all these resources, everything, right? Yeah. But you know why people in Africa and Korea and other places, they understand, like it is God who does what he does. And until you, if he took away our jobs now, everybody be praying and worshiping God and trying to. You see what I'm saying? Because people think that they are making this life for themselves. That's it. They think that I got the car, I got the job. No, you need to worship because without the Lord, you can't get none of that anyway.
SPEAKER_04Well, answer me this. That's it. Why is it that when the job or the car is taken, that's when they say, Oh Lord? But then when they get another one, guess what they go back to?
SPEAKER_00Put them on the shelf.
SPEAKER_08You know, I used to tell my kids, they said, Why don't we win the lottery and win the million dollars? I said, because if we won the lottery, God probably is saying, Will y'all still worship me? Yeah. Think about it. Because if everybody was millionaires, who really gonna be worshiping and praying and getting up and talking to God? That's right. Be real with yourself. People say money don't change me. Oh, they they will forget so quick that they wouldn't even because of you. Too much is given, much is required. If we're faithful over a little, he'll bless us with much. Yes, Lord. So we gotta be a good steward. That's worshiping. He said, You can't even take care of the $3,000 a month that you make on this job, but you want me to bless you. Worship him for that. That's it. Worship him that you can get in your car. Because when it's storming outside and I'm driving down the road and I see somebody standing waiting on the bus, I Lord, I thank you, God.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Because I remember when I used to wet, God. Lord, bless them that they don't get so wet, God, and that they've got a car that's coming their way.
SPEAKER_08People have to understand. We get up and we get dressed, we smell good. We got hot water to take a shower. Yeah, oh yeah. Lord, I thank you. Because somebody ain't got hot water. We gotta be thankful. I remember when I couldn't put my own feet on the floor because of my lupus. Somebody had to help me out the bed. It's a worship when I get and my feet can touch the carpet. Lord, I thank you. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, Jesus. We take so much for granted. We really do. Pride. Pride is in the way. You know. Pride is in the way. And these people are giving their lives standing. Going back to who Shatrap, me, Shack, and the Billy go. If you don't, those people over there, those people, those converts that you're talking about, June, they're giving their life up for the sake of God. That's true worship. See, we can't experience that because we're too spar. You know, we don't we don't drink out of the same water. Some of those people over there, those countries, those children and stuff drinking out the same water, uh, you know, animals using the restroom men and stuff. So I'm just saying, trying not to be so dramatic about it. But you know that you're right. But we we so spar.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So we proud, like you said, we we done did this ourselves. We didn't work the eight-hour job, you know, making a hundred some thousand dollars a year.
SPEAKER_08And they barely got enough to fill their bellies and they worshiping God.
SPEAKER_01Worshiping God because their spirit and in truth, yeah, they know who their their creator is. That's it.
SPEAKER_00That's why I tell a lot of times when people say, Yeah, I did this, I did that. I said, You ain't do nothing. You ain't got a big thing. I said, You better give him his glory. So who you talking to? You ain't did nothing. He did that for you. He blessed you with that. He blessed you with the opportunity, he blessed you to get through this storm. Don't take his glory away. Don't do it. You gotta give it just due at all times. Don't do it. That's why I'm like when I I've said quite a few times, even though I'm doing a side job, when I get a little tip for something on thank you, Jesus. Thank God.
SPEAKER_05Thank you for that.
SPEAKER_00Because he didn't have to give me nothing. Things can go the whole different way in life. And we we can't, we have to grow out of this way of thinking. That's why I thank God for working on me when I asked him to please train my retrain my mind and instead more of his wisdom and take out my logic. Because everything was so big on logic this, logic that. Yeah. Where it was so logical, it wasn't at, it wasn't making sense with him. When I go to the word, I'm trying to make my logic with his word, that lets you know you went too far. So that's why I thank God just for the blessings of even opening my spiritual eyes to see things different, view things different, and even go about life different.
SPEAKER_08MD me so you can increase and I decrease.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_08It's too much of us trying to play big God.
SPEAKER_01My God.
SPEAKER_04Another thing I don't like is when people say I'm lucky.
SPEAKER_05That's because they don't have to say you're blessed. Yeah, they bless you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they haven't got there yet.
SPEAKER_04I've seen on Facebook where believers have said I'm lucky. I lucked out. No, you did not. Just piggybacking off that I thought about that when you said that. Well, we don't understand what a privilege it is just to be able to breathe. Let alone to walk or talk. Once you have been through uh once the Lord has allowed us to go through certain obstacles in our lives, we learn that it's hell that we should give all worship and praise and glory and honor to him every single day. But BB, when you said you turn on the water and it's hot, I thank God for hot water every day. When I turned that shower on, because there was a time when I didn't have enough money to get my gas turned on. Yes. There was a time when I was out there in the streets. That's why I know God allowed me to go through certain things. We had to connect to electric, to have electric. You remember that? My next door neighbor, my god sister, we had extension cords. I didn't realize it then, but I was living in disobedience. But he brought us through that. Yeah, and for to have a child going through that, yeah, it's your testimony now. Yes, yeah, but you can't tell that from YouTube.
SPEAKER_00That was for me the experience too.
SPEAKER_04I know that, but that's why my worship is for real. That's what I'm getting at. That's right, yeah, that's why. Because people don't, if you don't tell your testimony, like you just said, if you don't give your testimony, people can look at June, because June's work been working in Ballingquart for 20 years, and she now don't believe the hype. There was a struggle. Yeah.
SPEAKER_08People see your glory and not your story.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah. You don't know our story. That's right.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. But if you don't open up your mouth, that's right. Okay, so let's let's okay, here goes with the worship, too. Because in the Bible it talks about being wall watchers, okay? And so I think about when to the people who are listening, think about the movies Troy and all of those, these kingdoms. They had people standing on the wall that would tell them when they see stuff coming from afar. Yes, right? When they see the other armies of the people coming in to attack the kingdom, right? So they had it was their responsibility to tell everybody below what's going on. That's what God has called us to be. We are wall watchers. That's right. So if you don't tell people what's coming to pass or what you've been through, guess who he's gonna hold accountable? He's gonna hold you accountable because they can't find safety if you don't open up your mystery telling.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_08That's that's scripture, and that's real.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's real, and it's part of worship. That's right. That's what it is. Because you're letting it lend the thing.
SPEAKER_01Telling that story, what God brought you out of it and giving the glory to it. Yeah, that's right. And he's the soul creator.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I tell your grandchild, she be blessed all the time. She didn't have to eat pancakes now and poke and beans and stuff. She overthrowing the way steak.
SPEAKER_01What?
SPEAKER_00The what?
SPEAKER_01Tacos. Uh uh. But that's the way that's a little bit more.
SPEAKER_03She's got that.
SPEAKER_08She entitled.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, she doesn't entitle that.
SPEAKER_08Because we come up in the time when they say you're gonna eat this, you're gonna eat this oatmeal. And guess what? When we came home from school, if you didn't eat that oatmeal, it was still on the table. You're gonna eat it cold and get it on the phone.
SPEAKER_00You ain't gonna eat that.
SPEAKER_08But that's your fault. Leave her alone. Yeah, how about that? Because I tell you one thing, she wouldn't get no more steak, and I bet she won't take it. That's what I'm saying. You bumped over the big though.
SPEAKER_04Enough about my granddaughter. Oh, wow. But and finally, it uh now we it's time for us to end this. You gotta come back. I will. Will you come back? Yes. I know you be as awesome, awesome. Uh in closing, family, God wants relationship. The greatest privilege of all is doesn't tolerate worship. God don't just tolerate worship. I found this. He desires it. He desires it, yes, because he desires us.
SPEAKER_01You better say it. Thank you, Jesus.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, Lord.
SPEAKER_04If not, just alter your way of thinking and pray and ask God to show you uh the different ways that we have to worship. Tell him to ask God to show you, open you up because we all deserve.
SPEAKER_01Thank you, Father.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, Jesus. Yes, we all deserve to have a loving God if as long as we ask him into our lives, he's there for the taking. Just believe in him, and while you're at it, worship him. In the process, uh BB, we thank you so much. Thank you for the thank you so much, dear. Yeah, and can you pray inside of your dear?
SPEAKER_08Okay, Father God, again, we just thank you for the opportunity to come before you, God, an opportunity to worship you, God, in spirit and in truth, oh God. An opportunity for uh us to come boldly before the throne of grace, God. We give you glory, honor, and praise, God. And we just ask, Father, whether we're sitting in this studio or online or however it is that we're tuning in, oh God, that you you decrease us, God. We want to decrease that you may increase, God. We want more of you, giving us just you, God, your presence, your love, your peace, just you, God, is all we want to seek after, oh God. So we just thank and praise you, oh God. We glorify you, God, for who you are, Father. And we just want your presence so that we can continue to worship you, God. We thank you. We uh ask for traveling grace as we end this podcast today, that everyone gets to their destination safely, and that the people who are listening can find you, God, in all that they do with you. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
SPEAKER_04Thanks for tuning in. We look forward to having you back next week.